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2018 Jeep Wrangler JL Hits Dealer System - 1st Official Look @ Engines, Options, Packages, Features!

  1. Alex D

    Alex D New Member

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    trust me ... you don't want a a diesel manual. ever driven one? The automatics keep the diesel much better in its power band. Drive a Ram diesel 2500 with manual and then with auto before ordering a JL diesel manual.
     
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    I haven't driven an actual diesel power train, much less a diesel paired with a manual transmission. I've only driven manuals and just can't stomach the thought of having an automatic. Much like those who can't drive manuals, and have only driven autos. It's a hard switch to make. May just be the Pentastar again for me.
     
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    They have re-used color codes for different colors in the past. For example, Tank re-used the color code previously used for a metallic green.
     
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    These are separate options? :facepalm:
     
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    I'd still take the manual over the auto. If and ONLY if the diesel isn't de-tuned with lower torque. If I HAVE to take the auto to get 400+ ft/lbs of torque, so be it.

    Having said that, I don't believe for a second the manual will be an option with the diesel.
     
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    If i'm not mistaken, you had to have a higher trim level on the Jeep Grand Cherokees to get the 3.0L. I would bet this would be the same.
     
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    does this indicate no more 16" steel wheels? The base model will now get 245/75 17 tires with 17" wheels? No more dinky 28" tires? This would be nice for guys like me on a budget.
     
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    The benefit is they can add batteries and electric motors in the future and increase power and efficiency. The BSG is a good intro to test R&D and packaging.

    At least that's where my mind would be as an engineer/designer/marketer.
     
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    "Mild hybrid" is an automotive industry term which generally describes this type of system. The full hybrid will come later in a couple years. I expect the full hybrid to be the option already being offered by ZF for its 8 speed transmission. I was hoping for a differential drivetrain coupled system which I don't think the ZF option is (haven't looked into it enough to know). I find it interesting that the BSG is standard on the hurricane. Modern turbo systems can already have remarkably low lag but when it comes to rock crawling its still too much. I bet the BSG will provide some assist especially at the low end to fill the gap. Hopefully it will also provide some regenerative braking. I think this helps clear up some of the confusion over which will be the standard engine. Pentastar standard, hurricane hybrid. I expect the price to be similar. Maybe a little more for the hybrid. Just an educated opinion though.
     
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    If I remember correctly, from early interviews, mild hybrid was always going to be available at launch.
     
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    I'd really like to see the JL offered in the same color as the rendition at the top of the website.:like:
     
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    Glad to see some big factory tires.. LT285/70R17C OWL Off-Road :rock:
     
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    Thats correct, its on Limited and up models. I was wondering if they where going to only offer it with the Sahara and Rubicon models on the Wrangler.
     
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    The Selec-Trac full time 4x4 is a nice surprise!

    Only downside is you can't use a front auto locking differential with it.
     
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    This sounds interesting. Sounds like Rock-Trac is just a more hardcore version. :like:
     
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    So, do we still not know which manual is being offered? Surely it isn't the NSG370...
     
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    "FCA is also developing a mild hybrid using belt starter generator (BSG) technology. BSG offers improvement in fuel economy and a reduction in CO2 emissions at a relatively low cost. This technology utilizes an electric motor which acts like a modified alternator that generates current, but also doubles as a starter to restart the engine when the vehicle is stationary. BSG is expected to be applied to FCA vehicles within the next two years."

    http://reports.fcagroup.com/sustain...ility/responsible-products/electric-and#start

    From a 2014 investor report:

    2014 FCA Investor Report - Powertrain.jpg
     
  18. Bill P

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    "Management" system sounds more like it would be a roof rail than it does side steps or rock guards. I'm thinking more Overland focused system for different parts/accessories.
     
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    Exact-A-F*%kly !! Like I said, why bother, when everyone is doing both now finally. Even the Sirrius, can we please do away with that !?!
     
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    Nah, the reason the Rubi gets the RockTrac is because it's still a 4:1 ratio, Command Trac and Select-Trac are both 2.7:1 ratio with no other option currently. So it does make sense to Have full blown RT on Rubicon

    Hopefully Select-Trac is offered on other 'special editions', because I want a more stout 'Sahara' if that's all it's limited to, something like the BackCountry or Chief, where you get nearer a Rubi without the 4:1 and without the Swaybar disco, though I'd love both too, but will sacrifice for Select-Trac for better manners in Winter.
     
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