2018 Jeep Wrangler JL Hits Dealer System - 1st Official Look @ Engines, Options, Packages, Features!

I've gotta say if your going with the pentastar I don't see why not get a JK

 

Navigation is one thing you shouldn't splurge on when you can just buy a Garmin or whatever for a few hundred dollars - it will keep up to date longer than a nav system which can't be replaced. You can always sell the garmin unit and upgrade to the latest.

 

I seriously doubt it will be 50k-60k for a loaded Sahara. For that money you could get a loaded Rubicon. Also, even if it was that much why are you willing to spend that kind of money on a Wrangler? The Jeep Wrangler is not a luxury car. Regardless of your financial status spending over double the base price of a vehicle makes absolutely no fiscal sense. Maybe you just enjoy wasting money?

 

So I was reading up on the optional select trac transfer case for the Sahara and I saw that it was an electronic shift on the fly system. I thought that people would be up in arms with this as it's more of a casual off road t-case due to it working with clutches and not a chain system; in comparison to the standard t-case. Just curious to see why everyone seems to be excited for it.

 

RockTrac and SelecTrac don't need to be mutually exclusive. The main feature with RockTrac is that the Part Time 4WD Low is a 4:1 ratio (as you mentioned). The SelecTrac still offers a separate Part Time Low setting/mode that while is 2.7:1, could instead be 4:1. Flipping this around, there is no technical reason why RockTrac could not also offer a Full Time 4WD High (1:1) setting/mode.

 

On the issue of no 2-door Sahara, and the SelecTrac transfer case only being offered on the Sahara, reminds me of a talk with the Jeep people at one of the Jeep gatherings several years ago.

When asked why no SelecTrac option on the Wranglers, they mentioned that the 2-door didn't offer enough room in the drive train to accommodate that transfer case. This makes we wonder if their solution (finally!) was to offer SelecTrac in a model of the Wrangler that doesn't come in a short 2-door?

 

What is the bhp and torque ratings for each powertrain ? No 5.7 Hemi option ?
Do you think my wife would have an issue if I came home with a brand new Sahara Unlimited ?
A set of balls on my part would be good.
4cyl ? I'm not a fan, maybe a '43 Willys, but not a 4 door unlimited pushing an additional 2000 lbs.
Not a fan of a high RPM powerplant

NEVER a fan of Select/Quadra Trac systems, I am a purist, I like to determine when I need 4WD, 99% of the time, rear wheel is fine for me. My '97 Isuzu Trooper had one of the best 4WD systems I encountered.

 

What's the difference between RockTrac and Select-Trac? I want a full time 4WD system. Does this mean I have to get a Sahara?

 

Selec-Trac II features full time 4WD whereas Rock-Trac does not.

Selec Trac


Rock-Trac

 

My 2016 Unlimited Rubicon with an automatic, 4.10 gears, dual tops, connectivity and supplemental airbags was $38K+tax/title

Invoice on a bare bones (all manual) 2017 Rubicon is $35700 so you should be able to get one for around $34500 (3% below invoice). So even i f they raise the price by $2K you would still be far under $40K.

 

Yea my 2013 JKUR has every option with the exception of 4.10 gears and remote start. MSRP on it was $44K and some change I paid $37K out the door using the Tread Lightly discount and additional negotiations. So I think its totally doable

 

Suddenly the 3.0L doesn't seem so out of reach...

 

I think it depends on when you buy it. If you can hold out till 2019 when some of the hype cools down I think you'll be able to negotiate a better deal.

 

Based on how I've typically used my Jeeps in the past, I'm definitely in the "all earth tones" camp, rather than a mix of tans and still a lot of black. If you're mostly cruising the urban jungle, you just got the vehicle for the Jeep badge, or your Jeep is just your daily driver, no big deal I guess, but I've always used my vehicles for getting out, away from everything. My wife and I enjoy taking time up in the mountains to observe the wildlife. We often take friends along, who stand on the seats for a better view or to get the perfect photo. Even from just the standpoint of having dogs, the earth tones hide paw prints, dog drool and fur better.

I'm definitely missing my 95'.

 

Even if just 1% below invoice, instead of full MSRP and "dealer markup", it makes the upcharge palatable. If we can even get it...

 

Will the Willys edition continue ?? I sure hope so.

 

With the new 33's planned for the Rubicon does anyone know if that will include a bigger lift to go along with it. The reason I ask is if I were to buy the current JK I was going to eventually add 33's and a small budget lift. Now that this comes stock it may be more reason to wait for the JL.

 

The Rubicon HD suspension is rumored to be around 1" higher than the other models. That and they designed the wheel openings and rock rails to handle at least 35s, so no additional lift needed. Want is another story altogether...

 

So the JL Rubicon is rumored to be 1" higher than the current JK Rubicon?